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 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22078    Replies: 2
posted by some dream (some dream) on 04/12 at 04:56
http://pocket-monkey.com/game.jsp?instance=1365147&histTurnNo=390

The score here is 6-8 after I resigned the last game.

Attempts to move dice 1/4 caused a repeated 'resign' function instead, taking the score to 6-11 and match over.

Please fix.
 
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22083    Replies: 2
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/14 at 10:51
Hi,

I've fixed it. Are you using the non-Java games? And if so, FWIW, if you can use the Java games, I'd recommend using them until I get the DHTML games finished.

Enjoy your games!
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T.J. Crowder
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 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22087    Replies: 2
posted by playBunny (pB) on 04/14 at 20:59
Hi T.J.

I also have a spurious resignation. There's a legitimate one .. http://www.pocket-monkey.com/game.jsp?instance=1348044&histTurnNo=788 .. followed immediately by another resignation costing 3 points.

Thanks :-)

ps. I've been using the DHTML version. That's because on my Win XP's Firefox declared Java a security risk and disabled it (I've just updated it) and on my new Win 7 system I haven't installed Java yet (and don't particularly want to).
     
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22094    Replies: 1
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/17 at 07:07
Hi,

I've corrected the score in that game. Please write to us immediately if you notice this happen, because it's much more work to fix once turns have been played (50 or so in this case) than it is right away. If this hadn't been a tournament game, I wouldn't have corrected it; I'd've just marked it as non-rated so it didn't count toward stats.

If you have the option of using Java (and on Windows 7, you do), please use it. The experimental non-Java games are just that, experimental, and they have various issues. You can download Java 6 (don't install Java 7) from here.

Enjoy your games,
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T.J. Crowder
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 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22096    Replies: 0
posted by playBunny (pB) on 04/17 at 16:09
Thanks, T.J. Having applied similar database fixes elsewhere, I appreciate the effort. :-)
   
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22126    Replies: 1
posted by some dream (some dream) on 04/27 at 12:47
Java used to work but won't now for some reason. I loaded Java 6 to no effect. Any ideas?
     
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22130    Replies: 1
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 05/02 at 09:20
If you completely uninstall Java and then install Java 6, it should work. You may have to look in your browser settings to see if the browser is disabling Java for some reason, but that's the only thing I can think of.
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 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22248    Replies: 1
posted by some dream (some dream) on 06/15 at 09:11
Still not working. I have a 64 bit system but using Firefox. I installed 64 bit Java 6.
         
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22250    Replies: 1
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 06/17 at 09:46
Hi,

Sorry, I don't know what the problem might be. "won't" work how? I've used Java 6 on 64-bit systems just fine, both Windows and Linux. I mostly use Chrome, but I've definitely used Firefox as well.
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T.J. Crowder
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 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22254    Replies: 2
posted by some dream (some dream) on 06/20 at 04:19
"I've used Java 6 on 64-bit systems just fine.."

You don't say which Java 6 works on a 64 bit system.

Is it 64 bit Java or 32 bit Java?

I naturally assumed it was 64 bit Java, but since Firefox is only a 32 bit program, I'm wondering if I should be installing 32 bit Java instead of 64 bit Java.

""won't" work how?"

No Java enabled games.
             
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22255    Replies: 0
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 06/20 at 17:54
Hi,
You don't say which Java 6 works on a 64 bit system.

Is it 64 bit Java or 32 bit Java?
If your browser is a 32-bit program, according to java.com you need the 32-bit version of Java, even on a 64-bit operating system. If your browser is a 64-bit program, you need the 64-bit version.
No Java enabled games
Yes, but what does that look like? Do you see a message that Java isn't installed and PM needs Java? Do you see a black square where the games should be? A broken plug-in graphic? A grey square? A pop-up message saying "No games for you!" Dancing elves? ;-)

-- T.J.
             
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22256    Replies: 1
posted by playBunny (pB) on 06/20 at 22:28
Roll up, roll up. Get yer 64-bit Firefox here.

http://www.palemoon.org/

Different name, same browser, specially compiled.
               
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22257    Replies: 1
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 06/21 at 09:17
It's important to remember that while nearly all of the code in Pale Moon is Mozilla's code, Pale Moon is not Firefox. It's very, very like Firefox, but it isn't Firefox.

Unless you're a technologist and/or developer, I'd stick with the official, stable, released Firefox builds for now -- which means 32-bit.

If your are a technologist and/or developer, this site claims to host "official" 64-bit builds of Firefox from the "nightly" builds of the project. But as there is no 64-bit build for Windows listed on Mozilla's own nightly build download page, I'm not entirely sure what that first site means by "official." Nightly builds are not stable releases, they're the overnight build of the current in-development version, and so suited only for testing. The odds are that at any given time, something is broken in a nightly build. That's why we have releases.

Remember that no 32-bit plug-ins will work with a 64-bit build, so you need to be sure your favorite plug-ins (Flash, Java, etc.) are available in 64-bit versions and that they work correctly.

Or, of course, just keep using the official 32-bit version and get the 32-bit version of Java.

-- T.J. :-)
                 
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #22258    Replies: 0
posted by playBunny (pB) on 06/21 at 11:30
Unless you're a technologist and/or developer ...

That's unnecessary fearmongering, T.J. :-(

Pale Moon is an end-user program and doesn't require any technical expertise whatsoever compared to Firefox. I've given it to my sister who is very computer-challenged. For instance she doesn't know what the Windows Taskbar is and thinks that a program has gone simply because its window is behind another. Despite such gaps in her knowledge, she's as happy browsing with Pale Moon as with Firefox.
 
 Re: 'Resign' occurred twice Message #23625    Replies: 0
posted by chicks (COOL MOVE) on 10/05 at 20:12
Does resigning a game of backgammon while playing. Mean the whole whole match or just that game. I was thinking just the game. I was 4 wins too 1 loss. Now I'm at 4 too 5. Lost the match
 Resign Message #23153    Replies: 1
posted by Sure (play time) on 08/05 at 06:56
I also resigned a game, and it resigned twice giving up 4 games
 
 Re: Resign Message #23626    Replies: 1
posted by chicks (COOL MOVE) on 10/05 at 20:24
So do they fix this or does it just go away
   
 Re: Resign Message #23627    Replies: 2
posted by chicks (COOL MOVE) on 10/05 at 20:32
All I want is somebody to tell me in resigning a game. A person loses just that game or the whole match. BTW it was a tournament match.
     
 Re: Resign Message #23709    Replies: 0
posted by playBunny (pB) on 01/15 at 20:57
The way resign works is that it resigns the appropriate number of points. That means a basis of 1, 2 or 3 points depending on the position. That number of points will then be multiplied by the cube value if it's in use.

You must be out of your opponent's home table or it'll be the 3 point basis. You must have taken a man off the board or it'll be a 2 point basis.

     
 Re: Resigning is dangerous with the DHTML version Message #23710    Replies: 0
posted by playBunny (pB) on 01/15 at 20:59
That said, if you are using Pockey-Monkey with the browser set to DHTML mode (non-Java) then you shouldn't resign at all because it cannot be trusted. It will resign the game as intended but it will then sometimes resign the next game as well. It's a bug that will not be fixed.

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