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Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?

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Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9569 Replies: 18
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 12/02 at 10:19
Hi folks, We'd value your opinions about vacations in particular formats of tournaments, would you do us favor and answer the two questions here and here? The first question is about Standard format tournies, the second is about UltraFast format tournies; they're both the same question other than the tourney format. Thanks in advance! -- T.J. Crowder First Primate Pocket-Monkey.com

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9571 Replies: 2
posted by magic (dot) on 12/02 at 12:03
Is it possiable to NOT allow vacations on round 1,because you know when they are starting, then allow vacations for rounds 2 or 3.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9573 Replies: 0
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 12/02 at 12:42
Is it possiable to NOT allow vacations on round 1... Thanks for the suggestion, but if a tournament allows vacations, we'll have it allow vacations in every round. Not allowing them in Round 1 would be additional work and an ongoing support problem; the gains just aren't worth it (in my view). Also, you don't necessarily know when some of the lesser-played tournies are starting because they don't always have enough players to start on time. -- T.J. Crowder First Primate Pocket-Monkey.com

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9649 Replies: 0
posted by s3xyblu33y3s (Lois) on 12/09 at 23:12
I would play in either one.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9574 Replies: 2
posted by AZ Scorpion (Jack) on 12/02 at 13:45
Vacations are a good idea, no more than one vacation per person per tourny. Grace periods were not a good idea... it allows a game to drag on for nearly an eternity.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9575 Replies: 0
posted by pint of beer (john shields) on 12/02 at 14:48
i think if you do have vacations it should be for all the ultra games they soon time out otherwise.the standard games with or without the option`s ie. standard with vacations feature and standard with out vacations feature. it would be splitting tournies even further though. some of the smaller tournies would struggle to get enough players to enter though.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9576 Replies: 0
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 12/02 at 14:50
A tourney may well run long enough that a player might take multiple vacations. Many tournies will cross more than one yearly holiday, for instance, since many tournies run more than a year. I think you'll find that grace time isn't the reason tourney games take a while (certainly not UltraFast tournies). Standard tournies are just very, very slow. Once we have vacations, I suspect we'll be able to introduce a new tourney format that will run much faster but, by allowing vacations, still works for a lot of people. -- T.J. Crowder First Primate Pocket-Monkey.com

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9577 Replies: 1
posted by petr.pavel (Petr 'PePa' Pavel) on 12/02 at 15:04
I'm glad T.J. put forward this discussion as I have been missing this feature very much. I like to play fast-paced tourneys but with UltraFast tourneys, I cannot go off-line even for a weekend. That made me abandon them completely. There will surely have to be some limit on the total amount of days off (perhaps with an option to buy some extra days for a low fee) although I'm not sure how to set the limit. It's not just the big vacation (e.g. 14 days in one shot) but weekends too. Do we want to separate weekends from vacations? Say, a limit of 4 weeks for vacation and a possibility to indicate one day per week that doesn't count into game limits? Thanks T.J. PePa

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9580 Replies: 1
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 12/02 at 16:38
There will surely have to be some limit on the total amount of days off... Yes indeed -- amusingly enough, when this thread described the vacations feature, you were...on vacation! ;-) -- T.J. Crowder First Primate Pocket-Monkey.com

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #10422 Replies: 0
posted by brownsugar51 (Brenda Turner) on 02/07 at 00:32
I would play in some games that have vactions. Some times players do go on vactions.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9583 Replies: 0
posted by pejy69 (PJ) on 12/02 at 20:57
It is just a game after all... we all have the competitve spirit, but i think we have to put it in perspective. Not many of these sights are still free to join and we are not playing for prizes.... just pride. If a concensus is reached then we all have to deal with it... I see no problem here and really could not see why anyone would have a problem with change.... Everything changes and we all move on... Do what ya gotta do.....!!!!!

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9587 Replies: 0
posted by frloplady (Mary W) on 12/03 at 04:56
Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations? Yes... =:) In other words that would not be my deciding factor on if I would play or not. I did have one time where I lost a bunch of ultra games because the motel I was in for one night didn't have internet access like they had said they did when we called in the reservations... I'm not sure how often I would even use the vacation option as I'm seldom away where I don't have internet access Mary

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9588 Replies: 0
posted by simply me (Janeen) on 12/03 at 07:05
Yes to both

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9608 Replies: 0
posted by gary4041 (gary m) on 12/07 at 14:38
i think the vacation times are ok.. but i think some of the tourneys have to long a playing time...you can keep some of the tourneys you have but i prefer the 1 or 2 day tourneys and loss of game if you dont play... i dont like playing in a tourney for a year

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9609 Replies: 0
posted by alwaysmarine (Larry B) on 12/07 at 14:44
Due to out of town family medical problems, I know at this time vacation would help.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9610 Replies: 0
posted by arwen (Cyndy Y) on 12/07 at 15:27
Isn't part of the challenge of the ultra games to play within the time limit? I'm fine either way. I just enjoy playing the games.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9612 Replies: 0
posted by ILTG (Al) on 12/07 at 17:29
Hi TJ, I don't see the NEED for this, there are still tourn's from July LAST year going..... Prior planning prevents poor production..... You have a great site.. seems like the more you give some people the more they want.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9613 Replies: 0
posted by Shreela (from Houston) on 12/07 at 17:50
I think standard ought to have vacation; however IIRC, you're proposing that players can make some moves while still technically being on vacation. I don't know how others feel about this, but I think if you're able to get online to make a few moves, then they should not be able to stay on vacation afterwards. UF tourneys should either be NO vaca, or a very limited vaca, like 2 days. Players knowing something might come up soon should avoid that particular UF tourney, but sometimes things crop up unexpectedly, but by limiting UF vaca to just 2 days might give them enough time to get past the reason for the vaca, while still not dragging on the UF tourney for others. I'd probably play UFs with no vac if all was well for me at the time.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9614 Replies: 0
posted by lordscoob (Scoob Dubious) on 12/07 at 20:41
I blew an ultrafast recently when i had to attend a funeral-but "thats life" [sorry] dont think ya need a shorter vacation though-I"ll sleep when I"m dead

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9636 Replies: 0
posted by Blondepickle (Blondepickle) on 12/08 at 19:33
I am for vacations being allowed. I just don't join tournies right now for the UF if I might be out on biz for a full day/evening. I have timed out many times and it gets frustrating when you are trying your best to beat the clock but miss it by an hour or two.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9644 Replies: 0
posted by Serena (Selena) on 12/09 at 17:14
I would play in both...I see the pros and cons for both, but it doesnt matter to me :)

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9647 Replies: 0
posted by LLJ (LLJ) on 12/09 at 22:17
Sure, I would play if vacations could be scheduled.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9648 Replies: 0
posted by LLJ (LLJ) on 12/09 at 22:19
Yes, I think using the vacation option would be good.

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9659 Replies: 0
posted by RosyLane (L.M. Kane) on 12/12 at 02:54
I think a weeks' vacation for the year would be a valuable asset.. RosyLane As to your question, I'd play in the tourneys anytime..

Re: Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations?	Message #9696 Replies: 0
posted by ambercruise (Lindarae Shamblin) on 12/16 at 11:44
I'd rather play without vacation

Vacations	Message #9579 Replies: 2
posted by Rellac (Cindy) on 12/02 at 15:55
If I understand it right all that happens is you would lose? I could understand if we were playing for a prize or some sort of winnings but come-on it's just entertainment!!! I don't care either way what ever the majority decides is fine with me but let's keep it real it's just games!!! Oh by the way I'll be going on Vacation in April so after December I won't be entering any new tournies!! and what ever I might have left I guess I'll just lose because were leaving for 2 weeks and I don't know if we will have access to a computer.

Re: Vacations	Message #9584 Replies: 0
posted by BMI (PDQ) on 12/02 at 21:09
You know my opinion of how to speed up the tournaments and I wait patiently for the opportunity to have vacations.

Re: Vacations	Message #9592 Replies: 0
posted by Purplerose (Rose P.) on 12/04 at 18:57
I recently had surgery right after the tournies started. Had I known before, I would not have signed up. I timed out because I was out. ZzZzZzZzZ! Vacation would have been nice just for that simple fact. :)

vacations	Message #9593 Replies: 0
posted by judybell (judy s :O)) on 12/04 at 18:58
they need a few days but not a week or so some ppl dont move every day..they need a time limit no less than 3 days

Vacations	Message #9598 Replies: 1
posted by steelerfan1 (Jonathan) on 12/06 at 02:03
So when are you going to put these vacations on?

Re: Vacations	Message #9604 Replies: 1
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 12/06 at 12:54
On or before the 15th. It's a matter of finding the time to finish writing the necessary code. :-) But I promised myself that last year's suspension of timeouts for Christmas, Hanukkah (partially, we missed a bit last year), and New Year's Eve would be the last year we'd do it. Yes, I know that most of our players are in countries where those are major holidays, but a good number of our players aren't, and as I've said before, it doesn't seem right for a global site to be declaring timeout holidays for just certain selected occasions. Hence the vacations feature where you choose your own time off (which I thought I'd have done months ago). -- T.J. :-)

Re: Vacations	Message #9607 Replies: 2
posted by magic (dot) on 12/07 at 14:21
received a message requesting my vote: But I seemed to have already voted. ie. that it really doesn't matter to me. Love the site the people and the games. will play as many as i can cope with. :-)

Re: Vacations	Message #9616 Replies: 0
posted by francheska (frances) on 12/07 at 22:14
TJ it really doesn't matter to me its a great site & nice people on it

Re: Vacations	Message #9617 Replies: 0
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 12/07 at 22:49
received a message requesting my vote: But I seemed to have already voted. Sorry about that, there were a couple that we mis-identified as not having voted who had. (This was a slip-of-the-fingers on my part, and I managed to take most of it back, but not all.) -- T.J. :-)

as for vaction time. i think it would be nice.	Message #9620 Replies: 0
posted by maryu8888 (maryu8888) on 12/08 at 05:30
the reason i say this things do come up. like for exsample, i got lung cancer. i may end up in the hospital. and may misss a few days.this is not my fault. but my health.all i ask you all is prayer for me. i belive the prayers will heal me. thank you for your time. from your friend maryu8888.

Vacations	Message #9623 Replies: 1
posted by dottie51 (dottie) on 12/08 at 09:53
I think that it would be a good thing. I went to the hopital unexpeted and was in there for a week and lost a lot of games. If there were vacation I would have not lost as many.

Re: Vacations	Message #9632 Replies: 0
posted by Aurora (Aurora) on 12/08 at 17:21
I agree there is definitely a NEED for some sort of vacation feature! I am going into the hospital for surgery on Dec. 10th, and I have tried to make allowances for that with my "friendly" games. The time-change feature is a big help for that! Thank you, T.J.!! 8^) However, in the case of tournies, there is no way for a person to make a last minute time adjustment to account for an unexpected absence. My personal opinion is that however many vacation days a person has in a given (annual?) period that they be allowed to disperse them as they choose to use them - one day, three days, a week or whatever at a time. Once the annual vacation days are used up there will be no more days available until the next calendar period when a new allotment is given. So basically, let all the players pick their own vacation days! For those who get more than 2 or 3 weeks of REAL vacation a year.... be glad you get that much vacation! Some of us get NO VACATION at all! If we go with the 30 days annual vacation that T.J. has proposed that should be sufficient to keep everyone satisfied. For those who get MORE than those 30 days of vacation a year.... take me with you please!! I've never been anywhere!! 8^) (I'll make sure I don't enter tournies when I know I'm not able to play.)

Vacation Time	Message #9642 Replies: 0
posted by kekay (Kay) on 12/09 at 10:34
I also play in another site that allowes Vacation times on ANY GAMES which is a blessing when one has to go into hospital, arrange Funerals or just a Holiday, so PLEASE. Make provision for them for all our sanity Kekay

'Question: Would you play in tournies that did/did not have vacations	Message #9643 Replies: 0
posted by rosesncards (Casey) on 12/09 at 16:45
I'd play the ones WITH vacations. I think it's a great idea. Happy Holidays Casey

YES Vacation only	Message #9652 Replies: 0
posted by tuftoes (Mike) on 12/10 at 22:07

Doest matter	Message #9657 Replies: 0
posted by deefromwa (Dee) on 12/11 at 21:43
It doesn't matter to me, will play no matter. enjoy the games and people Dee in Spokane

tournament with or without vacations	Message #9671 Replies: 0
posted by Living4Jesus (Karen White) on 12/14 at 05:18
I would definitely play in the one where I could take vacations.

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