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 We've moved the Next Game link Message #7727    Replies: 7
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/16 at 07:56
Hi folks,

We've moved the Next Game link from above the top right-hand side of the board to above the top left-hand side of the board. Apologies in advance for the hassle! We have a good reason for doing it, and it'll only be until later this year.

(If you're using WebTV, you can ignore this, it doesn't apply to our special game page for WebTV users; but if you're using a computer, this applies to you.)

So why did we move it? Well, Dr Feelgood realized that his browser crashed much less often if his cursor wasn't above the ads after clicking Next Game (which it usually was, because he has to scroll down to see the full board). Several other players verified his results, as did I. It's a strange interaction between Internet Explorer, Sun's Java plug-in, and Google's ads. See this this forum thread for details.

So we've moved the link over so it's much less likely that people will run into this. We've moved it even if you're using a browser other than IE (and even if you're using the DHMTL [not Java] games) in order to present a consistent interface to nearly all users (again, we have a special version of the game page for WebTV users because of their extremely limited screen size).

I'm sure this will bother a lot of people at first, because it's hard to change the click habit and most of us are used to clicking Send and then moving the mouse upward just slightly and clicking Next Game. Hopefully we'll all get used to it. Later this year, though, a more thorough redesign is coming down the pike which should make this unnecessary.

Thanks in advance for your patience while we all adjust, and enjoy your games!
--
T.J. Crowder
First Primate
Pocket-Monkey.com
 
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7730    Replies: 0
posted by crazycazzy (caroline) on 04/16 at 08:55
lol i keep going to the same place for next game, but im sure i will get to grips with the change, keep up the good work TJ.
 
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7733    Replies: 2
posted by AZ Scorpion (Jack) on 04/16 at 10:39
I would occasionally click on the NEXT GAME button by mistake instead of the SEND button, then I would have to redo the move and send it. So actually, I like the new location of the NEXT GAME button...I hope it stays there permanently.
   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7735    Replies: 0
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/16 at 11:02
LOL I have (had?) the same problem. -- T.J. :-)
   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7758    Replies: 0
posted by robinlove (Roberta) on 04/16 at 16:57
I second that!!!!!! lol
 
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7736    Replies: 1
posted by rooknut (Thomas Kraus) on 04/16 at 11:03
Yes, I had the same problem with clicking 'next game' instead of 'send'. I had to keep going back to 'games' to see which games were yet to be played and heard myself say many times, 'Hey, I played that already!' Keep the button 'next game' where it is now. It makes playing easier and it sort of makes a definite 'end of move' maneuver with the mouse. Keep up the good work. You have an excellent site. Just don't tell my boss. :-)
   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7738    Replies: 0
posted by el41ne (Elaine) on 04/16 at 12:19
Great job TJ. I dont crash anymore. Thanks :0)
 
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7740    Replies: 3
posted by macoan (BIG BAD WOLF) on 04/16 at 12:57
I have a better solution.

Make it when you click "Send", have it go to the next game automatically.

I mean I've already made my move - why do I need to stay there and look at the page longer?
   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7742    Replies: 1
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/16 at 13:20
An option to do that is on our To Do list, but it's much more complicated than it sounds, technically. It's also not appropriate to all games. (For instance, in RadarWar, you probably want to see the outcome of your shots...) But it's definitely part of what we're working on as part of the update later this year.
--
T.J. Crowder
First Primate
Pocket-Monkey.com

     
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7744    Replies: 1
posted by macoan (BIG BAD WOLF) on 04/16 at 13:30
Well make it an option - for me, I personally don't care about the outcome of my RadarWar shots after my turn - that is for me, I see no point in studying a game after I made my shots - I'll do that when it comes back to be my turn again before I'm ready to make my next shot.

So if anything - maybe an option - so people who like to study their shots after they made it can still have that option - others like me who would rather get on to playing other games can quickly send, submit, and move to next game.

But I'm glad it sounds like you are working on something! :-)
       
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7753    Replies: 0
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/16 at 14:26
Yes indeed. My concept, with that update, is to have the option be per-game-type, and one of the choices will be to move on automatically, but with a half-second delay -- so for games like RW, you see the result of your move and then it moves on for you... Lots to do before that update is here, though, because of the internal stuff it relates to separate from the small bit we're talking about here. :-)

-- T.J. :-)
   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7746    Replies: 0
posted by froggy2 (Marie Frog :O)) on 04/16 at 14:01
I have to say that is a great idea, hit send and then on to the next game.
   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7749    Replies: 1
posted by steelerfan1 (Jonathan) on 04/16 at 14:19
Thats a bad idea I feel because if you make it automatically go to the next game and some one is on "live" then you keep playing your games and with them and you will take you twice as long to get all the games over. And talking to many people most people have over 150-200 games to play especially with tourtaments going on
     
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7754    Replies: 0
posted by macoan (BIG BAD WOLF) on 04/16 at 14:34
I'm talking about an option - not automatically the same for everyone - so if players like to stay at a game, they could pick that option. If a player likes to quickly move to the next game - they can pick that option.
 
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7741    Replies: 4
posted by Silkwood (Silkwood) on 04/16 at 13:14
Could you also MOVE the "resign" button. don't know how many times I have hit that instead of "send". it's too close to the send button.
thanks..
   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7743    Replies: 0
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/16 at 13:23
See this forum thread...
--
T.J. Crowder
First Primate
Pocket-Monkey.com

   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7750    Replies: 1
posted by steelerfan1 (Jonathan) on 04/16 at 14:20
I agree thanks for bringing that up. luckly it asks you before it does that or else I would have lost half of my games, I lose enough games LOL without hitting that button
     
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7755    Replies: 0
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/16 at 14:49
Yeah, me too -- on both counts... ;-)
   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7759    Replies: 0
posted by Miftis (Miftis) on 04/16 at 17:39
I agree. I've already lost games this way, I click on the resign button so often that I have the habit of clicking the cancel button down pat, So I can do it pretty fast, the unfortuanate part is I sometimes go too far and click the OK button and resign my game by accident. It would be nice if it wasn't close to the send button, then this wouldn't happen to me.
   
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7769    Replies: 0
posted by gardenbarbie (Barbie Garden) on 04/17 at 00:38
Yes, please if possible, move the RESIGN button.. It has caused us many times to lose games when you really didn't mean to.You sure put a lot of work into keeping this site interesting. You deserve a medal or more money..lol.Thank you for having such a place to play and chat...
 
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7767    Replies: 0
posted by Dr Feelgood (Dr Feelgood) on 04/17 at 00:21
Made hundreds of moves today and not a single crash! Thanks so much, T.J., for looking into this and making the change!
 
 Re: We've moved the Next Game link Message #7771    Replies: 0
posted by wildknight (Carey) on 04/17 at 04:00
At first the change was a little bothersome, but you get used to it. Is there any plans to put in a button to send and move to the next game with one click?
 SITE MOVING SLOW Message #7747    Replies: 0
posted by froggy2 (Marie Frog :O)) on 04/16 at 14:04
I am having a great deal of problems now with the site moving real slow from game to game. This has been the only site that would move real fast from game to game. My Java and all of my cookies things are ok.
 SLOW Message #7748    Replies: 1
posted by froggy2 (Marie Frog :O)) on 04/16 at 14:07
PS I know you work hard for us here, so believe I am not B_G. There is also a problem with each game loading and with every move I make. TJ we all know you are doing your best for us. Thanks Marie
 
 Re: SLOW Message #7751    Replies: 1
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/16 at 14:22
Hi Marie,

That sounds like it's unrelated to this change or the IE/Java/whatever bug that's causing it. Probably best to drop us a note via the Contact Us link, maybe we can think of something that will help.
--
T.J. Crowder
First Primate
Pocket-Monkey.com

   
 Re: SLOW Message #7757    Replies: 0
posted by PepsiTwist (Sherry~Ohio~Kansas) on 04/16 at 15:34
TJ I'm also having the same problem as froggy2...also when I leave the site then try to come back its slow in finding the sight & takes forever to sign in...hopefully this will help figure out the problem...good luck keep up the good work
 Previous Moves Message #7756    Replies: 1
posted by Orchid Canary (Yours Truely) on 04/16 at 15:32
when will we see the "prev" and "next" moves option next to the game board, with alot of the games i like to click on previous move to see where i moved on my previous turn and not have to scroll all the way down below the board and do a number of clicks to get to it and back..??
 
 Re: Previous Moves Message #7760    Replies: 1
posted by T.J. (T.J. Crowder) on 04/16 at 17:50
Hi,

For the previous turn, there's a link just under the board "Show Previous turn" -- one click, and it's the previous turn! :-) This was suggested and put in about a month ago...
--
T.J. Crowder
First Primate
Pocket-Monkey.com

   
 Re: Previous Moves Message #7773    Replies: 1
posted by lovey8115 (Beth) on 04/17 at 09:32
I hit that "How to" Instructions ONE MORE TIME, and I'm going to scream. It's weird having it over there, but nice that it's beyond the "Save" button.

Thanks TJ and crew, you're doing a good job! But I wish the Instructions to Play were in a different place, cause I'm hitting that instead of "next game".....ARGHHHHHHHHH As long as your changing buttons how about putting the Intruction at the bottom of your sheet.

Beth
     
 Re: Previous Moves Message #7791    Replies: 0
posted by cfoxo (Carolyn) on 04/18 at 03:26
Hey T.J.....now see what you did moving that 'next game' button...now ya gotta re-design the entire site!!...lol
jk. :) Great job....I no longer crash like I was either, just an ocassional glitch or two. Am happy .:)

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